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Transforming the Team: Week Four — Innovating with Conflict: Having Hard Conversations to Drive Performance

John Frehse Senior Managing Director at Ankura
Sep 19, 2023

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Today, the UKG Workforce Institute continues a collaborative, culture-focused effort with Ankura called “Transforming the Team.” In this five-week series, guest contributor Mark Cappellino from the Ankura Talent Advisory team, along with UKG Workforce Institute advisory board member and Ankura colleague John Frehse, provide actionable strategies and weekly exercises to help leaders transform their cultures, starting at the individual and team levels. 
 
This work is part of a collaboration inside The Culture Lab at Ankura, where experts from different fields come together to tell a more impactful story about business outcomes. For this session, Mark, John, and a range of leaders from other disciplines help leaders better understand team dynamics and dysfunction. Most importantly, what to do about it to drive operational performance. 
 
Before reading ahead, catch up on the series here: Week One; Week Two; and Week Three. 
 
There are people who avoid conflict at all costs, those who love to create it, and the rare few who skillfully engage to resolve it. We see conflict as a negative, when it is really a healthy part of collaboration. 
 
For leaders, the presence of conflict can conjure up anxiety and knee-jerk responses. Many of us have been oriented to believe that conflict is “bad.” We equate it with impolite behavior, trouble-making, not getting along, or being “ugly.” We want to resolve conflicts as quickly as possible. 
 
Yet, whenever you get deeply committed, intelligent, well-intended people working together in a collaborative environment, there will be conflict. Conflict is normal. Necessary even. And for leaders, it’s one of the most valuable tools we have to solve problems and access innovation and creativity in an organization. 
 
Not having conflicts signals that not everything is fine, but instead that conversations are missing — conversations that represent missed opportunities for growth and innovation. Sadly, this is a far-too frequent norm in organizational relationships. People avoid conversations where conflict naturally and necessarily exists for the sake of “getting along.” 
 
Fortunately, collaboration and conflict go hand in hand. 
 
Collaboration is, by its very nature, conflictual. Teamwork involves having different observers with different responsibilities, priorities, points of view, accountabilities, and interpretations of what is required to achieve success. Collaboration requires the intention to come together to achieve something greater than we can as individuals. We collaborate with our differences — that’s what makes it collaboration. This coming together of differences, in and of itself, is a source of conflict. 
 
A Constructive Way to Be with Conflict 
 
Culture influences the way we relate to disagreements and discord. 
 
Family members often “argue” with one another, and it doesn’t necessarily mean anyone is wrong or angry. We can experience the full spectrum of emotions, including getting boisterous with one another, and relationships are not bruised. We recognize that intensity is about commitment — not temper. 
 
In organizational environments, productively engaging with one another’s passionately held points of view is often noticeably absent. The noise of people trying to be invisible as they tiptoe around one another speaks volumes. This intention to control our way of engaging in conflict has people circumventing others at great mental and emotional cost. This is the source of things coming to a standstill. This is the source of trapped capacity within the organization. 
 
We interpret the absence of conflict to mean we’re safe, we’re getting along, and nobody’s wrong. 
 
But it’s not that we don’t like each other or that we don’t get along. It’s not that we’re not committed to each other’s success: we are. It’s that we’re afraid to have discordant conversations with each other. 
 
It feels uncomfortable to talk about our disagreements — like adolescent dating. The risk seems huge, and we don’t quite know how to proceed. So, we hang out on the fringes: desiring magic and doing everything we can to avoid feeling awkward. 
 
The challenges of engaging collaboratively are many. We can misread passion as anger. We can get hooked on where the other person is wrong. We can trap ourselves in a victim’s story of being wronged. Even when we have agreements in place in our relationships, we can inadvertently trigger the “conflict-avoidance response” by simply questioning something. Our desire to be liked, trusted, and highly thought of — all these can feel like they’re hanging in the balance of a conversation that looks like conflict. 
 
Breaking Down Conflict Avoidance 
 
It is a leader’s job to initiate the conversations that others are afraid to have, and to stay in these conversations until they are complete. 
 
When John and I are coaching senior leaders, we often start by noticing where they’re experiencing anxiety or recoiling from disagreement. I recognize that people’s default orientation to conflict can vary widely. Surprisingly, many enormously successful executives have actually been rewarded throughout their careers for avoiding it. Others can be traumatized at the mere suggestion of having a conversation with someone whom they perceive as potentially threatening or simply possessing a different point of view. So, we work together to shift their perspective, notice their energy, and observe their interpretations. We step back from any right/wrong position they may have taken. All this before we look at the details of their current situation or start to envision ideal scenarios. 
 
So, when it comes to conflict, we have the opportunity to define our relationships relative to conflict in order to preemptively support and sustain the conversations that will come up in committed, collaborative relationships. 
 
This Week’s Exercise: Have a direct conversation with someone with a completely different point of view and think about specific ways your differences create better solutions for your organization. 
 
Next week, to conclude our series, we discuss how to recognize dysfunction before it grows. 

John Frehse

Senior Managing Director at Ankura

John Frehse speaks around the world on a variety of best practices in the labor management field. John’s experience covers a wide array of strategic issues, from analytical resource deployment modeling to implementation planning and execution. Specific tactical problems include scheduling and shift management to increasing employee satisfaction, health, morale, and performance. Over John’s career, he has implemented solutions with Fortune 500 companies across a variety of industries. Those projects have generated over $400 million in cost savings. John has done this with diverse workgroups across almost every industry, focusing on employees who do not work the traditional 9:00 to 5:00 schedule. His proven approach has balanced operations and labor savings with employee-morale initiatives to make sure cost savings stick. John is a sought-after speaker and has authored numerous white papers and articles, including the “11 Keys to Strategic Scheduling.” He earned a bachelor’s degree in politics with a focus on the political economy from Wake Forest University.

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